A Day in the Life of Amber

Ramblings about the nonsense I encounter...

Monday, June 06, 2005

Creation or Accident?

So, the other day, I stayed up until 3 am talking to my friend about a question he asked. The question was Creation or Accident? He said that if you could answer this question, you will know the answer to everything. I , of course being a Christian, answered, Creation. I explained that the world was too detailed and beautiful to be an accident. So here is pretty much our convo...
(Amber says... Dan says..)

creationism or acident?that one Question is the one that can answer everything
creationism, the world is too beautiful and detailed to be an accident. If it were an accident, ppl wouldnt be so interested in it...like with earth science and history , cuz it would have no meaning at all. however, creation, shows that there is a higher power who created something so spectacular and marvelous, that ppl have to search it out
but how do we know that religion isn't just a scapegoat theory
and of couse people are gunna be iterested cause they don't know
and how do we know that it doesn't have any meaning?
We dont know,wed have to know everything for that one. but even if it was a scapegoat, what harm is it doing you. if you live be rules that lead to either heaven or hell, and then die, and find out it was all a fake, what harm did it do, all it did was make u a better person and it gave u a purpose to live. without a purpose or incentive, life is pointless.
the harm it did was you lived a lie
ok, but ur dead...u wouldnt think that. we live lives everyday dan
yes so enjoy them with out thinkabout whats to come and we live our life
i mean, who thinks that going to the gym will get u in shape when when u leave the gym, u eat the fattiest foods to exist...haha alot of ppl. that is a lie. children, they believe in santa....
however when they find out there isnt a santa in time, did it ruin their lives? was it worth it?

how do you know that religion isn't like santa that you just taught that he exist but doest really, and belive it till someone tells you different..but im not talking just religion, im talking beliving in god in general.
i have a relationship with my god, cz there is evidence of him.
thats good that you do, but if some one were to give you absoult profe that he isn't there would you let him go?

yes, if someone could give me absolute proof that there is no god whatsoever, i would....however, id like to see someone try, cuz the little things r what count. i think that proly one of the most amazing things is that ever since the beginning of time, we dont even have to use the christian perspective, we can just use cavemen or whatever. there was always a sense of highpower.
if u look at ppl, they believe in higher authority, its like written in them , u have the father..under him the wife..then the children. we r built on that highness. and throughout these tiems, there has always been different gods...however, the only one that is still spredin like a wildfire is jesus christ. we r still talking about him...its been over 2000 years, i dont see much ppl still following zues...or meeting inremember of him as much as possible...plus pretty much every religion has a higher power, and prett ymuch all branched for judiasm....which led
into christian and so forth and so forth.

nature is a higher power, but this seems to be what alot of people see a god
dan but how can anture just be there?u believe nature is higher than u. u believe that the tree outside ur window is in control of u , and loves u.....u think that that tree created ur being...?
that would be silly.

humans now are created by nature not god.i'm refering to nature as, everthing that isn't man or god, inculding the universe it self. nature is the universe and everthing , every power in it
so it pretty much created itself? how can something just be natural...without a beginning?

its just natural, like breathing
where did it start?
is goes back to the question of creation or accident
accident is a pro to nature rite?how can that be....when the definitions are complete opposites
listen..accident is- A circumstance or attribute that is not essential to the nature of something.
do u see the part where it says it is not essential to the NATURE of something
the world is too perfected and complicated for it to be an accident. another def of it...An unexpected and undesirable event, especially one resulting in damage or harm

the word nature in there has a completly different meaning
no it doesnt, its a physical meaning, nature or soemthing..liek breathing..

Any ways, that was prolly the main thing we talked about, we kinda went into having a spirit and having choice, and that we r different from the animals, however after what i just posted, he kinda was scattered and made no sense, so im not going to post that. I hope that made some sense, if not tell me, and give me some advice or some other stuff to say to him about creation vs. accident, cuz when i left that nite, we were kinda unfinished, but it was late, so we decided to leave. however, he said next time he talks to me, we r going to continue. Ok, thanks for reading all of this, tata.

Ambular


5 Comments:

  • At 10:41 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    FGood job Amber. Whenever I talk to people about stuff like that I forget everything I know. If that makes any sense. i know what I believe but when I'm in a disscussion it all leaves my head and I sound really stupid. Then once its over i'll be thinking about it, and come up with all this great stuff to say. It's really annoying. You should have Dan watch those Kent Hoven ( SP?) videos . They are so good.

     
  • At 11:11 AM, Blogger Sadie Lou said…

    I think you did a fine job. At least you were bold enough to have the conversation and see through 'till the end. Some Christians get too intimadated to talk about such a broad topic like that. Good job!

     
  • At 12:13 PM, Blogger Ambular said…

    Roz- I know what you mean about forgetting everything when you are on a hot topic like this. haha it happens to me all the time.
    Sadie - Thanks! Sometimes, i do feel intimidated. But I am really thankful that these convos come up, because I think it tests my knowledge and my belief. And I think it shows others that This is ME...and not some thing that is forced upon me.
    THanks you both, you are encouraging!

     
  • At 12:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    k gotta show my side, yes i do belive a exelet job, more than most. any way i will not go towards either side because i don't know, so amber was obviously taking the creation side so i took the accident, anyways you only got a little piece of it, we talked about this for about 5 hrs and never came to a conclusion(to sum it up)so if anyone would like to go on this with me i would love it cause i need an explaination anyways talk to amber on how to get a hold of me.

     
  • At 12:38 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    k gotta show my side, yes i do belive amber did an exelent job, more than most. any way i will not go towards either side because i don't know, so amber was obviously taking the creation side so i took the accident, anyways you only got a little piece of it, we talked about this for about 5 hrs and never came to a conclusion(to sum it up)so if anyone would like to go on this with me i would love it cause i need an explaination anyways talk to amber on how to get a hold of me.

     

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